Copenhagen Flops!

18 12 2009

Wanna see a headline that will put a smile on your face?



“The city of Copenhagen is a crime scene tonight…”

“This is a great way to end 2009, a year that has questioned our faith in our fellow man. Here’s the rest of the story from the UK Guardian…”

The UN climate summit reached a weak outline of a global agreement last night in Copenhagen, falling far short of what Britain and many poor countries were seeking and leaving months of tough negotiations to come.

After eight draft texts and all-day talks between 115 world leaders, it was left to Barack Obama and Wen Jiabao, the Chinese premier, to broker a political agreement. The so-called Copenhagen accord “recognises” the scientific case for keeping temperature rises to no more than 2C but did not contain commitments to emissions reductions to achieve that goal.

American officials spun the deal as a “meaningful agreement”, but even Obama said: “This progress is not enough.”

“We have come a long way, but we have much further to go,” he added.

The deal was brokered between China, South Africa, India, Brazil and the US, but late last night it was still unclear whether it would be adopted by all 192 countries in the full plenary session.

The agreement aims to provide $30bn in funding for poor countries to adapt to climate change from next year to 2012, and $100bn a year after 2020.

But it disappointed African and other vulnerable countries who had been holding out for far deeper emission cuts to hold the global temperature rise to 1.5C this century. As widely expected, all references to 1.5C in previous drafts were removed at the last minute, but more surprisingly, the earlier 2050 goal of reducing global CO2 emissions by 80% was also dropped.

The agreement also set up a forestry deal which is hoped would significantly reduce deforestation in return for cash. It lacked the kind of independent verification of emission reductions by developing countries that the US and others demanded.

Obama hinted that China was to blame for the lack of a substantial deal. In a press conference he condemned the insistence of some countries to look backwards to previous environmental agreements. He said developing countries should be “getting out of that mindset, and moving towards the position where everybody recognises that we all need to move together”.

This was a not-so-veiled reference to the epic row over whether to ditch the Kyoto protocol and its legal distinction between developed and developing nations. Developing nations saw this as an attempt by the rich world to wriggle out of its responsibility for climate change. Many observers blamed the US for coming to the talks with an offer of just 4% emissions cuts on 1990 levels. The final text made no obligations on developing countries to make cuts.

Negotiators will now work on individual agreements such as forests, technology, and finance – but, without strong leadership, the chances are that it will take years to complete.

Obama cast his trip as a sign of renewed US global leadership. “The time has come for us to get off the sidelines and shape the future that we seek; that is why I came to Copenhagen,” he said. But he said he would not be staying for the final vote “because of weather constraints in Washington”.

Lumumba Di-Aping, chief negotiator for the G77 group of 130 developing countries, was scathing: “This deal will definitely result in massive devastation in Africa and small island states. It has the lowest level of ambition you can imagine. It’s nothing short of climate change scepticism in action.

“It locks countries into a cycle of poverty for ever. Obama has eliminated any difference between him and Bush.”

John Sauven, executive director of Greenpeace UK, said: “The city of Copenhagen is a crime scene tonight, with the guilty men and women fleeing to the airport. Ed Miliband [UK climate change secretary] is among the very few that come out of this summit with any credit. It is now evident that beating global warming will require a radically different model of politics than the one on display here in Copenhagen.”

Lydia Baker, Save the Children’s policy adviser said: “By signing a sub-standard deal, world leaders have effectively signed a death warrant for many of the world’s poorest children. Up to 250,000 children from poor communities could die before the next major meeting in Mexico at the end of next year.”

Bears dance to celebrate the failure of the Copenhagen crazies.




8 responses

18 12 2009

Prayers really do work!

Christmas is looking better and better. Happy birthday, Jesus!

(And to any atheist lib troll who may wander in here and start bleating about Dec. 25 being originally a pagan holiday and not really Christ’s birthday, go to

18 12 2009

“Prayers really do work!”



P.S. I always had a tried and true method of shutting down the trolls on this particular subject. It may not technically be the exact day of his birth, but it is the day that we set aside each year to celebrate it. If they argue with that I tell them to bugger off!

19 12 2009
K. Hoffa

I wonder where Lydia Baker has found the figure about 250.000 people dieing from CO2 poisening before the end of next year. Not even suffocation can be attributed to CO2 poisening, rather an oxygen shortage. CO2 simply isn’t poisonous.
Besides, even if 250.000 brats die of CO2 poisoning next year it should be their parents who should be held accountable, not me. I’m don’t like children, don’t have any and really don’t feel like paying for the consequences of not mass sterilizing third world populations. Has anyone noticed the third world clamouring for money for “damage” caused by CO2 produced in the first/second world when their real problems are caused by exploding populations and corrupt governments.?
The CO2 thing is hot air. Let’s concentrate on holes in dissapearing holes in ozon layers above an increaingly tick Antarctic ice pack which has resulted in massive iceberg’s endangering the coast of southern Australia.

19 12 2009

OK, here goes.My favorite line was Dufus in Chief had to leave early cause of raging blizzard back in D.C…….God Has some sense of humor. Now as far as the Children dying. I bet there have been millions who have died in these countries and not because of Co2….no, a little nasty thing called Malaria. Which was and is easily controlled with DDT. But the Liberal Goddess Rachel Carson thought it hurt the birdies so all the good libs got on board and when not saving the whales they had DDT banned………..They are directly responsible for the deaths of MILLIONS of people. Now as for famine and draught. Well seems that part of the world always has that problem………lot of it is a friggen desert.
Not to make light of it, but The Late comedian Sam Kenison had a joke about it. he said ” Why are we sending them food and water? It’s a desert, always has, always will be. We should be sending them U-haul trucks………get the F out and go some where , where stuff grows and there is water”

19 12 2009

Not all of Africa is parched; only North Africa is desert. The main problem is HUMAN, not NATURE.

I taught a course on economic development for many years and Nigeria was one of the case studies we looked at intensively. Like the rest of Africa, Nigeria’s problems are mainly all man-made:

1. Political corruption: If you think we have corrupt politicians here, you ain’t seen nothing yet. There’s a reason why some scholars refer to the governments there as kleptocracies.

2. Internal fighting: We used to call them tribal warfare, but then the word “tribe” became un-PC. Take Nigeria for example: it’s Africa’s biggest country in population, comprised of more than ONE HUNDRED tribes ethnic groups, with 3 largest ones (the Muslim Hausa-Fulani, Ibo, Yoruba). Ever since Nigeria’s independence from colonial Britain in 1960, the three ethnic groups had been fighting each other.

3. Lack of sound planning and human capital: International development aid and loans are stolen (kleptocracy), squandered, and misspent, resulting in enormous debt that will never be repaid. There’s a paucity of skilled labor: to illustrate, HIV-AIDS is pandemic in Africa, but the middle, i.e., educated, class is most affected.

There are more, but you get the picture….

19 12 2009

Eowyn, Is there any subject you are not so well versed on……LOL, glad your on our side. My main point really was the deaths due to DDT ban. Then I remembered the old Kinneson Joke about U-Hauls. I realize most are not desert and like you say are man made and Tribal and Political disasters. Hey here’s an idea. How bout an organization gets together and try’s and fixes these things. I heard there was this Genocide going on in Rwanda. You give this Organization a peace keeping force made up of troops from various countries and they go to hot spots and help these poor people…..hmmm, now let me think…what should we call it…..OH I know since there will be forces from all nations doing good, why not call it the….are ya ready……The
United Nations. What do you think of that? Just think of all the good they could do for mankind and all the poor people being slaughtered and being affected by famine and disease. What’s that you say….What, Copenhagen….huh….Co 2 what…Global Warming…Huh, but Genocide, Famine, Malaria, millions of deaths due to malaria and your telling me they are arguing about Global warming in a city that just had a blizzard where it has only snowed 4 times this early in the last 100 yrs. Nah your making this up. Please tell me your making this up……….Nobody could be this stupid and waste an organization like that could they?….Could They?

19 12 2009


You’re perfectly right on DDT! Sorry I didn’t mention that in my earlier comment.

Another myth, i.e. lie, peddled by the Left is sexologist pedophile Alfred Kinsey’s report that 10% of Americans are homosexual. It turns out the real incidence is 2-3%. A good book on all this is Jack Cashill’s Hoodwinked: How Intellectual Hucksters Have Hijacked American Culture.

19 12 2009

Oh yea, with out a doubt. No way in hell is it 10%. I don’t even think it’s 2-3 %. I have known many people in my life. And yes many Gay people. I worked on Broadway for 6 years and you want to talk about percentages of gay actors and dancers. Even there I would venture to say at tops it was maybe 30 % with the Guy chorus dancers. The lead dancers not so much, maybe 20 % In the female category, maybe 10 % . And you are not going to find a profession with a higher ratio. Now apply to real life, and we have several Gay friends, and know several more since moving to Fla. Now I figure we know at least 200 people easily. and we know 6 who are gay. which comes out to .003 percent. I do not need to widen my circle. The Gay friends I have I love. They are some of the nicest , funniest, caring people I know. Let’s take my neighborhood which is 72 houses. I am the president of H.O.A. I know of 1 Gentleman who is Gay. May be more, but ya get my point. It drives me crazy how such a small vocal minority get’s to ram (oops to late) things down our throat. I have no prejudice against gays. I do not believe in gay marriage, but what 2 consenting adults do behind closed doors is their Biz, not mine…….so stop making it mine. I do believe that is one of the 45 communist goals isn’t it?………I’m telling Ya Eowyn, when we take back this Country in 2010 there is going to be such a backlash against all these groups who have caused us to sway so far from our values that I think as long as we don’t ram things and be ass’s with the victory we could get this country headed in the right moral direction again………………….wow, did I just say something optimistic….LOL

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