I had this story the day before I took off for a secret meeting with the ruler of the World, but ran out of time that day and forgot about it.
Anyway, the left claims that the right lives in some sort of secretive conspiracy world, or what you and I would call ‘reality’. I’m not sure where they get these ideas, but my hunch is they do waaay too many drugs.
If you like conspiracy stories, you will love this one. It seems that Dick Cheney is still running the government. The article below is bad enough, just wait until you get to the comments part for what I call “Conspiracy Humor”, or what you might call “Moron Speak”. Enjoy…
Gio-
Cheney ‘Left A Stay Behind’ In Obama’s Government, Can ‘Still Control Policy Up To A Point’
In an interview on NPR’s Fresh Air yesterday, host Terry Gross asked investigative journalist Seymour Hersh if, as he continues to investigate the Bush administration, “more people” were “coming forward” to talk to him now that “the president and vice president are no longer in power.” Hersh replied that though “a lot of people that had told me in the last year of Bush, ‘call me next, next February,’ not many people had talked to him. He implied that they were still scared of Cheney.
“Are you saying that you think Vice President Cheney is still having a chilling effect on people who might otherwise be coming forward,” asked Gross. “I’ll make it worse,” answered Hersh, adding that he believes Cheney “put people back” in government to “stay behind” in order to “tell him what’s going on” and perhaps even “do sabotage”:
HERSH: I’ll make it worse. I think he’s put people left. He’s put people back. They call it a stay behind. It’s sort of an intelligence term of art. When you leave a country and, you know, you’ve driven out the, you know, you’ve lost the war. You leave people behind. It’s a stay behind that you can continue to contacts with, to do sabotage, whatever you want to do. Cheney’s left a stay behind. He’s got people in a lot of agencies that still tell him what’s going on. Particularly in defense, obviously. Also in the NSA, there’s still people that talk to him. He still knows what’s going on. Can he still control policy up to a point? Probably up to a point, a minor point. But he’s still there. He’s still a presence.
Listen here:
The idea that Cheney would seed the government with trusted contacts is not surprising. As Hersh noted in his talk with Gross, Cheney has “been around forever” and “understands bureaucracy much better” than almost anyone in government. In 2006, Robert Dreyfuss reported for The American Prospect that when Cheney helped staff the Bush administration in 2001, he put together a “corps of hard-line acolytes” that served “as his eyes and ears” in the federal bureaucracy. Former officials called them “Dick Cheney’s spies.”
Additionally, before leaving office, the Bush administration aggressively placed political appointees into permanent civil service positions as part of a process known as “burrowing.” Some of the burrowed former political appointees have close ties to Cheney, such as Jeffrey T. Salmon, who was a speechwriter for Cheney when he served as defense secretary. In July, he was named deputy director for resource management in the Energy Department’s Office of Science
Transcript:
GROSS: You investigated the Bush administration throughout the Bush administration. Always looking for ways that they may, might have been going beyond executive authority in taking on new powers. And now that the Bush administration is over, you’re still investigating what they did and where they might have violated the law. Is investigating that any different for you as a journalist post-Bush administration than it was during the Bush administration? Are more people coming forward now, now that the president and vice president are no longer in power?
HERSH: You know, that’s a great question because I did think, I had a lot of people that had told me in the last year of Bush, “call me next, next February.” And, so far, even people who are out are still cherry because, you know, not so much Bush, but Cheney really is…he’s really smart. In the article this week, in the New Yorker, that’s coming out this week, I mention that at one point last fall, Mr. Miliband, the young foreign secretary of Britain, unilaterally, without telling the White House made a trip to Syria to see the president, Assad, and his intelligence chief, his MI6 chief went before him. And Bush-Cheney didn’t know about it until actually was, they were actually there. And Cheney at a meeting — and I do have, I can tell you I do have access and have had and I’ve been careful of how I use it, to a lot of stuff from meetings in the White House — and at a meeting he railed on about perfidious Albion, you know, the old Shakespeare term for England and that was used during the Revolutionary war as a pejorative term for England. Perfidious Albion he said. He is, Cheney is really underestimated. It’s easy to make a caricature of him. He’s very very bright. And he’s also in person, a much more open-minded in the sense, I’m talking about not politically. You could go and the most despaired people in the world go and have social evenings with him and his wife and talking about current, as long as you don’t get into politics, movies and stuff like that. It’s, he’s easy to make a caricature, but he’s much more formidable than people think. Got a rap clap memory. Understands bureaucracy much better, he’s been around forever, has had every job.
GROSS: Are you saying that you think Vice President Cheney is still having a chilling effect on people who might otherwise be coming forward and revealing things to you about what happened in the Bush administration?
HERSH: I’ll make it worse. I think he’s put people left. He’s put people back. They call it a stay behind. It’s sort of an intelligence term of art. When you leave a country and, you know, you’ve driven out the, you know, you’ve lost the war. You leave people behind. It’s a stay behind that you can continue to contacts with, to do sabotage, whatever you want to do. Cheney’s left a stay behind. He’s got people in a lot of agencies that still tell him what’s going on. Particularly in defense, obviously. Also in the NSA, there’s still people that talk to him. He still knows what’s going on. Can he still control policy up to a point? Probably up to a point, a minor point. But he’s still there. He’s still a presence. And again, because of the problems this administration’s having filling jobs, a lot of people who served in the Bush Cheney government, particularly even in the White House people on most sophisticated staffs are still there. You simply can’t get rid of everybody, you may not even want to. Some are professional people. But Cheney is, I would never call it admiration, but, you know, formidable, yeah, this guy. This
guy is the real McCoy.[END]
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Before you read the comments below, please put down all liquids.
Thank you, the Management.
These permanently “burrowed” stooges need to be removed.
Justice Department, do your duty. Find a way.
Sabotage during a time of war from within the DOD, huh? Smoke these phuckers out and charge them with treason.
Have we exhausted all non-lethal means to squelch the influence of Cheney? Has he been held accountable for his actions as veep? Can he be?
And when Cheney expires (as we all do eventually), does the monster spy network expire along with the head? Or does another head take its place, like the legendary hydra?
Dick the Tick, burrowed under the governments skin and near impossible to get it all the way out.
And why is Dick not in prison for his WAR CRIMES?
Oh, he’s a repulican, forgot….nevermind.
Recall Jeb Bush, once the looming head of the shadow government
Okay,seriously, this is getting ridiculous! When will this man go away!
What do people fear about cheney? Yes, he could apparently make people dissappear and he did support torture and, by extention, he could have you killed. The implication is that it’s a fear of political retribution, but do people actually fear for their lives and/or harm to themselves or loves ones? Why are people submissive to such an ass?
He found a country he could deceive easily. we Americans. like Germany in the 30’s Americans were easily deceived for the Iraq war and our industrial military complex staying intact even in times of peace
And who’s to say that Cheney still doesn’t have control over assassination squads. That fear would be enough to keep possible whistle blowers quiet. I think we are going to be suffering from the affects of the Cheney presidency for years to come.
Republican Sedition is to be expected… Terrorism, torture, violence and anti-democratic practices are the common thread among right wing lunatics the world over.


Call me silly, but I couldn’t understand a word of Mr. Hersh’s interview. What the heck was he trying to say?! Honestly, if Mr. Cheney does have “spies” still in the White House, we may have a chance of surviving the Obama administration after all.
That’s why I can’t stand listening to NPR. They blather on in those bland voices, trying to sound so intellectual, when it sometimes comes off as snide. It drives me bonkers.
The idea that Cheney would seed the government with trusted contacts is not surprising. As Hersh noted in his talk with Gross, Cheney has “been around forever” and “understands bureaucracy much better” than almost anyone in government. In 2006, Robert Dreyfuss reported for The American Prospect that when Cheney helped staff the Bush administration in 2001, he put together a “corps of hard-line acolytes” that served “as his eyes and ears” in the federal bureaucracy. Former officials called them “Dick Cheney’s spies.”
Another case of projection. Bill Clinton did this and W foolishly didn’t remove all political appointees and replace them. That’s how we got bit in the butt over the illegal issue, the then INS essentially stopped deporting illegals in the last two years of the Clinton Admin and they kept the policy going until we all kicked up a storm. Who do you think appointed all those federal prosecutors that got replaced??? Why they were Clinton hold overs. Now why would Democrats be so upset about getting rid of Clintonites in office???? Yeap, that’s right sabotage, i.e. not prosecuting people who were PC.
The entire episode pointed out the wisdom of the Founding Fathers who created the political appointee system, the incoming administration must have their people in place running the bureaucracy making sure each agency follows the direction the ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE says. If the will of the people or rather the consent of the governed means anything, the government should be abiding by prevailing sense of the country with the protection of the minority (contrary opinion holders, not special interests, not racial profile).
Dan has it exactly. Projection. What the Left does so well, and sometimes illegally, they claim the Right does – with no evidence whatsoever, mind you. Not unlike some of the “comments” Gio lists:
why is Dick not in prison for his WAR CRIMES?
Oh, he’s a repulican, forgot….nevermind.
And my personal favorite:
Recall Jeb Bush, once the looming head of the shadow government
What “War Crimes”? List them.
Aren’t the Democrats the ones that are rarely charged or serve prison time?
Jeb Bush, Shadow Government Head? Unfreakingbelievable.
When we (the Evil Empire) charge that ACORN is a Socialist, Far-Left Wing, organization that intimidates we have PROOF, FACTS, and HISTORY to show the truth of those charges. And we can list dozens more Left-wing organizations and people and show when, where, and how they have pulled the stunts the Right are routinely charged with.
The Leftoids merely throw bombs hoping that the lies get out and around and, eventually, believed. THAT’S HOW THEY WORK.
Sorry for the shouting. Dave would understand, though.
Gio – Once again, thanks for reading the lying trash so that we don’t have to.
Doktor Enraged