Free Speech Islam & United Nations

14 02 2009

This is an interesting article for any of you that think Islam is a peaceful religion, and the UN is a worthwhile venture.

Gio-

Despite the Riots and Threats, I Stand By What I Wrote

Last week, I wrote an article defending free speech for everyone — and in response there have been riots, death threats, and the arrest of an editor who published the article.

Here’s how it happened. My column reported on a startling development at the United Nations. The UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights has always had the job of investigating governments that forcibly take the fundamental human right to free speech from their citizens with violence. But in the past year, a coalition of religious fundamentalist states have successfully fought to change her job description. Now, she has to report on “abuses of free expression” including “defamation of religions and prophets.” Instead of defending free speech, she must now oppose it.

I argued this was a symbol of how religious fundamentalists — of all stripes — have been progressively stripping away the right to freely discuss their faiths. They claim religious ideas are unique and cannot be discussed freely; instead, they must be “respected” — by which they mean unchallenged. So now, whenever anyone on the UN Human Rights Council tries to discuss the stoning of “adulterous” women, the hanging of gay people, or the marrying off of ten year old girls to grandfathers, they are silenced by the chair on the grounds these are “religious” issues, and it is “offensive” to talk about them.

This trend is not confined to the UN. It has spread deep into democratic countries. Whenever I have reported on immoral acts by religious fanatics — Catholic, Jewish, Hindu or Muslim — I am accused of “prejudice”, and I am not alone. But my only “prejudice” is in favor of individuals being able to choose to live their lives, their way, without intimidation. That means choosing religion, or rejecting it, as they wish, after hearing an honest, open argument.

A religious idea is just an idea somebody had a long time ago, and claimed to have received from God. It does not have a different status to other ideas; it is not surrounded by an electric fence through which none of us can pass.

That’s why I wrote: “All people deserve respect, but not all ideas do. I don’t respect the idea that a man was born of a virgin, walked on water and rose from the dead. I don’t respect the idea that we should follow a “Prophet” who at the age of 53 had sex with a nine-year old girl, and ordered the murder of whole villages of Jews because they wouldn’t follow him. I don’t respect the idea that the West Bank was handed to Jews by God and the Palestinians should be bombed or bullied into surrendering it. I don’t respect the idea that we may have lived before as goats, and could live again as woodlice…. When you demand “respect”, you are demanding we lie to you. I have too much real respect for you as a human being to engage in that charade.”

An Indian newspaper called The Statesman — one of the oldest and most venerable dailies in the country — thought this accorded with the rich Indian tradition of secularism, and reprinted the article. That night, four thousand Islamic fundamentalists began to riot outside their offices, calling for me, the editor, and the publisher to be arrested — or worse. They brought Central Calcutta to a standstill. A typical supporter of the riots, Abdus Subhan, said he was “prepared to lay down his life, if necessary, to protect the honour of the Prophet” and I should be sent “to hell if he chooses not to respect any religion or religious symbol… He has no liberty to vilify or blaspheme any religion or its icons on grounds of freedom of speech.”

Then, two days ago, the editor and publisher were indeed arrested. They have been charged — in the world’s largest democracy, with a constitution supposedly guaranteeing a right to free speech — with “deliberately acting with malicious intent to outrage religious feelings”. I am told I too will be arrested if I go to Calcutta.

What should an honest defender of free speech say in this position? Every word I wrote was true. I believe the right to openly discuss religion, and follow the facts wherever they lead us, is one of the most precious on earth — especially in a democracy of a billion people rivven with streaks of fanaticism from a minority of Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs. So I cannot and will not apologize.

I did not write a sectarian attack on any particular religion of the kind that could lead to a rerun of India’s hellish anti-Muslim or anti-Sikh pogroms, but rather a principled critique of all religions who try to forcibly silence their critics. The right to free speech I am defending protects Muslims as much as everyone else. I passionately support their right to say anything they want — as long as I too have the right to respond.

It’s worth going through the arguments put forward by the rioting fundamentalists, because they will keep recurring in the twenty-first century as secularism is assaulted again and again. They said I had upset “the harmony” of India, and it could only be restored by my arrest. But this is a lop-sided vision of “harmony”. It would mean that religious fundamentalists are free to say whatever they want — and the rest of us have to shut up and agree.

The protesters said I deliberately set out to “offend” them, and I am supposed to say that, no, no offense was intended. But the honest truth is more complicated. Offending fundamentalists isn’t my goal — but if it is an inevitable side-effect of defending human rights, so be it. If fanatics who believe Muslim women should be imprisoned in their homes and gay people should be killed are insulted by my arguments, I don’t resile from it. Nothing worth saying is inoffensive to everyone.

You do not have a right to be ring-fenced from offense. Every day, I am offended — not least by ancient religious texts filled with hate-speech. But I am glad, because I know that the price of taking offense is that I can give it too, if that is where the facts lead me. But again, the protesters propose a lop-sided world. They do not propose to stop voicing their own heinously offensive views about women’s rights or homosexuality, but we have to shut up and take it — or we are the ones being “insulting.”

It’s also worth going through the arguments of the Western defenders of these protesters, because they too aren’t going away. Already I have had e-mails and bloggers saying I was “asking for it” by writing a “needlessly provocative” article. When there is a disagreement and one side uses violence, it is a reassuring rhetorical stance to claim both sides are in the wrong, and you take a happy position somewhere in the middle. But is this true? I wrote an article defending human rights, and stating simple facts. Fanatics want to arrest or kill me for it. Is there equivalence here?

The argument that I was “asking for it” seems a little like saying a woman wearing a short skirt is “asking” to be raped. Or, as Salman Rushdie wrote when he received far, far worse threats simply for writing a novel (and a masterpiece at that): “When Osip Mandelstam wrote his poem against Stalin, did he ‘know what he was doing’ and so deserve his death? When the students filled Tiananmen Square to ask for freedom, were they not also, and knowingly, asking for the murderous repression that resulted? When Terry Waite was taken hostage, hadn’t he been ‘asking for it’?” When fanatics threaten violence against people who simply use words, you should not blame the victim.

These events are also a reminder of why it is so important to try to let the oxygen of rationality into religious debates — and introduce doubt. Voltaire — one of the great anti-clericalists — said: “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” If you can be made to believe the absurd notion that an invisible deity dictated The Eternal Unchanging Truth to a specific person at a specific time in history and anyone who questions this is Evil, then you can easily be made to demand the death of journalists and free women and homosexuals who question that Truth. But if they have a moment of doubt — if there is a single nagging question at the back of their minds — then they are more likely to hesitate. That’s why these ideas must be challenged at their core, using words and reason.

But the fundamentalists are determined not to allow those rational ideas to be heard — because at some level they know they will persuade for many people, especially children and teenagers in the slow process of being indoctrinated.

If, after all the discussion and all the facts about how contradictory and periodically vile their ‘holy’ texts are, religious people still choose fanatical faith, I passionately defend their right to articulate it. Free speech is for the stupid and the wicked and the wrong — whether it is fanatics or the racist Geert Wilders — just as much as for the rational and the right. All I say is that they do not have the right to force it on other people or silence the other side. In this respect, Wilders resembles the Islamists he professes to despise: he wants to ban the Koran. Fine. Let him make his argument. He discredits himself by speaking such ugly nonsense.

The solution to the problems of free speech — that sometimes people will say terrible things — are always and irreducibly more free speech. If you don’t like what a person says, argue back. Make a better case. Persuade people. The best way to discredit a bad argument is to let people hear it. I recently interviewed the pseudo-historian David Irving, and simply quoting his crazy arguments did far more harm to him than any Austrian jail sentence for Holocaust Denial.

Please do not imagine that if you defend these rioters, you are defending ordinary Muslims. If we allow fanatics to silence all questioning voices, the primary victims today will be Muslim women, Muslim gay people, and the many good and honourable Muslim men who support them. Imagine what Europe would look like now if everybody who offered dissenting thoughts about Christianity in the seventeenth century and since was intimidated into silence by the mobs and tyrants who wanted to preserve the most literalist and fanatical readings of the Bible. Imagine how women and gay people would live.

You can see this if you compare my experience to that of journalists living under religious-Islamist regimes. Because generations of people sought to create a secular space, when I went to the police, they offered total protection. When they go to the police, they are handed over to the fanatics — or charged for their “crimes.” They are people like Sayed Pervez Kambaksh, the young Afghan journalism student who was sentenced to death for downloading a report on women’s rights. They are people like the staff of Zanan, one of Iran’s leading reform-minded women’s magazines, who have been told they will be jailed if they carry on publishing. They are people like the 27-year old Muslim blogger Abdel Rahman who has been seized, jailed and tortured in Egypt for arguing for a reformed Islam that does not enforce shariah law.

It would be a betrayal of them — and the tens of thousands of journalists like them – to apologize for what I wrote. Yes, if we speak out now, there will be turbulence and threats, and some people may get hurt. But if we fall silent — if we leave the basic human values of free speech, feminism and gay rights undefended in the face of violent religious mobs — then many, many more people will be hurt in the long term. Today, we have to use our right to criticise religion — or lose it.

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16 responses

14 02 2009
Eowyn

Only a civilization (Western) that has lost its way and no longer believes in its own Greco-Judeo-Christian tradition can be so easily intimidated and bullied by these Islamothugs.

18 01 2010
Errrr

Greco-Judeo-Christian??? Like Moses pouring lead into people’s mouths, or the inquisitions?

18 01 2010
giovanniworld

Errrr,

Maybe you didn’t notice, but those things you spoke of were of ancient history. Islamothugs are doing their killing today, yesterday, and the day before that, and on it goes. We are talking about the here and now while you are stuck in a time that none of us experienced.

Islamist extremist terror is a problem of the right now!

Gio-

19 01 2010
Errrr

Hey, I didn’t bring up “tradition.” Eowyn did. Can’t have your cake and eat it, sorry.

19 01 2010
giovanniworld

I can, and I will!

Gio-

20 01 2010
Touche

I am a Moron.

14 02 2009
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14 02 2009
giovanniworld

Eowyn,

This is what the world get’s when we allow liberal ideology to creep into the souls of our society.

The folks that wrote the “45 Communist Goals for America” must be laughing their asses off and drinking champagne.

Gio-

14 02 2009
cortillaen

I seem to see something very different in this article than most here.

This trend is not confined to the UN. It has spread deep into democratic countries. Whenever I have reported on immoral acts by religious fanatics — Catholic, Jewish, Hindu or Muslim — I am accused of “prejudice”, and I am not alone. But my only “prejudice” is in favor of individuals being able to choose to live their lives, their way, without intimidation. That means choosing religion, or rejecting it, as they wish, after hearing an honest, open argument.

A religious idea is just an idea somebody had a long time ago, and claimed to have received from God. It does not have a different status to other ideas; it is not surrounded by an electric fence through which none of us can pass.

That’s why I wrote: “All people deserve respect, but not all ideas do. I don’t respect the idea that a man was born of a virgin, walked on water and rose from the dead. I don’t respect the idea that we should follow a “Prophet” who at the age of 53 had sex with a nine-year old girl, and ordered the murder of whole villages of Jews because they wouldn’t follow him. I don’t respect the idea that the West Bank was handed to Jews by God and the Palestinians should be bombed or bullied into surrendering it. I don’t respect the idea that we may have lived before as goats, and could live again as woodlice…. When you demand “respect”, you are demanding we lie to you. I have too much real respect for you as a human being to engage in that charade.”

In the midst of whatever other points Mr. Hari is trying to make, he inadvertently sabotages himself with this. While he may oppose Muslim fanatics, he considers them on the same level as Christians fundamentalists, showing that his views are more anti-religion than simply anti-radicalism. To compare belief in Christ as the Son of God and a miracle-worker to belief in divine inspiration for a war-mongering monster who practiced sexual relations with at least one child is moronic, and yet Mr. Hari does so. He also indicates that he believes Israel is unjustly attacking Palestinians out of some form of divine mandate, something equally foolish.

It might behoove Mr. Hari to reread his own article and notice that every violent reaction to free speech he notes has been from a source other than Christianity or Judaism. There is a drastic difference between refusing to discuss matters which are taken on faith in absence of absolute proof and producing violent mobs and murdering those when religious tenents are questioned, something that seems lost on Mr. Hari. Why does he not mention that Christianity is subject to not only questioning, but derision, mockery, desecration of icons, and contempt without any sort of retribution? In fact, why does he not note that Christianity is being systematically silenced in many places by both other religions and secular forces?

I also noticed that he carries a distinct hostility towards “the racist Geert Wilders”, who Mr. Hari claims “resembles the Islamists he professes to despise: he wants to ban the Koran.” To Mr. Hari, it is simply “ugly nonsense” to advocate placing a text which has spawned countless murders and terrorist acts into the same category as Mein Kampf. While I agree that the Koran should not be banned if one is to be wholly devoted to freedom of speech, instantly writing off a person’s entire argument based on disagreement with a single statement is utter stupidity. Mr. Hari is so obsessed with that singular event that he appears to not care at all that Mr. Wilders’ own rights to free speech are being consistently violated or that he has been subject to death threats and violent mobs because of “Fitna”. It strikes me as distinctly hypocritical, the same hypocrisy that he accuses Mr. Wilders of committing, to condemn a man for desiring a single, demonstrably evil book banned from a single country while ignoring a tremendous number of death threats and violent acts committed against the same person for spreading the truth about that very book and the evil it spawns.

The conclusion I drew from his article is that Mr. Hari cares less about freedom of speech than about opposing religion in general. He comes across as a hypocrite for repeatedly placing Christianity in the same category as Islam while simultaneously offering examples almost exclusively of Muslim violence, and also for condemning Mr. Wilders while ignoring the suppression of speech perpetrated against him. Mr. Hari appears to fall into the common pit of “A small percentage of Muslims are fanatical”, as well (“If we allow fanatics to silence all questioning voices, the primary victims today will be Muslim women, Muslim gay people, and the many good and honourable Muslim men who support them”). Last, Mr. Hari appears to be utterly unwilling to acknowledge that the freedom of speech upon which the US was founded and which has largely permeated the west is a result of our Christian heritage, not in spite of it. The latter part of his article implies that he believes in some myth of secular rationalists beating back the tide of fundamentalist Christian thought in the not-so-distant past, rather than a large sector of the religion that strayed from its principles, lured by the trappings of wealth and power. Whatever good Mr. Hari may be doing, he should seriously consider focusing his attention on real threats instead of imaginary past and present versions of Christianity and Judaism.

14 02 2009
giovanniworld

cortillaen,

We have some very smart and insightful folks here at Gio’s World, and you happen to be one of them.

I did however get the ‘feeling’ that he had slightly more respect for Islam than he does Christianity and Judaism. Which does seem a bit odd considering he wants us to believe he is a non-believer.

Gio-

14 02 2009
The Doktor

Yes, cortillaen, very well done. I believe you verbally tore Mr. Hari a ”new one”. And at such level and thoroughness that it would cause him great discomfort if delivered personally. I would pay to see that.

And, Gio.

”I did however get the ‘feeling’ that he had slightly more respect for Islam than he does Christianity and Judaism. Which does seem a bit odd considering he wants us to believe he is a non-believer.”

I find that most people claiming to be ”Independent politically” or ”not leaning towards one religion or another” usually are covering something up. One wonders what those ”4% Undecided” actually believe in every voting cycle. A person has to believe in something or they’re just idling through life. Those are the folks that are doing 55mph far left lane of a 3 lane Interstate. Commit, damn it. There are important things at stake.

Doktor Dedicated

14 02 2009
Eowyn

Outstanding evisceration of Mr. Hari, Cortillaen!

Two thumbs up, way up!

18 01 2010
Errrr

Honestly, while free speech is undoubtedly an inalienable right, its exercise is often quite a futile gesture. Especially in matters of irrational beliefs. One is either preaching to the choire, which isn’t all that useful (and can be done privately), or one is annoying the other half that’ll never, by definition, see anything of value in rational speech. Their beliefs are irrational after all, right? Unless the real right we are protecting is the right to annoy the religious bastards (which I savor, kid you not, but it is at the end of the day, a perverse pleasure). If raising the intellectual standard of the society at large is of concern to the speaker, then it is far better use of time to build private, protected educational communities, with “scholarships” for those from poor classes. Slowly, over several decades, maybe even a century or two, provided the insane religious mob doesn’t over run the world, things will begin to turn around. One hopes.

18 01 2010
giovanniworld

Islam is the only insane religious mob that wants to take over the world, so go talk to them.

Gio-

19 01 2010
Errrr

Ahh … I see. You aren’t really defending free speech in general, just attacking one religion in particular. Which probably means you have one religion that you are fond of. Which means … well, nuff said. I’ve wasted enough time.

19 01 2010
giovanniworld

Errrr,

No, you totally mis-understood what I was getting at. It is you that has wasted my time.

Gio-

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